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Marc Spitz and Brendan Mullen

We Got the Neutron Bomb: The Untold Story of LA Punk [book]
2001
Three Rivers Press

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Published on November 26th 2004

In the annals of punk rock, Los Angeles is largely forgotten. Legs McNeil’s Please Kill Me doesn’t mention Southern California, other than to reference Iggy & The Stooges post-glam misadventures there. The vast majority of British-centric histories, like Stephen Colgrave’s Punk: The Definitive Record of a Revolution, fails to mention it at all (most of them would prefer to ignore America altogether, but that’s another story).

Marc Spitz and Brendan Mullen’s oral history, We Got the Neutron Bomb: The Untold Story of LA Punk does a more than admirable job of documenting the legacy of Los Angeles. Strangely enough, it begins with a mention of the Doors (who, admittedly, had a pretty great ‘fuck you attitude’ in Jim Morrison, and Iggy was also a fan) and runs through the pre-punk glam rock scene, anchored by The Runaways. The book’s punk focus finally starts to formulate 63 pages in, when we are introduced to 1976 and the Weirdos, the Screamers and later, the Germs kick-start the scene.

From there, the really interesting stories of Los Angeles pour in: Belinda Carlisle (yes, from the Go-Go’s) as a former cheerleader and was slated to be the drummer for the Germs; X’s Billy Zoom once played with R&B legend Etta James; Jack from TSOL tortures someone in his parent’s garage on Easter; scenester, promoter, and all-around scumbag Kim Fowley pops in and out with wonderfully amusing observations (his thoughts on Germs fans are particularly outrageous).

In between, various personalities gravitate towards synth pop, rockabilly, roots rock, and most famously, hardcore. The rise and fall of the Germs’ Darby Crash is documented, Penelope Sphears makes the infamous “Decline of Western Civilization” (John Doe: “Didn’t care”) and punk falls as hardcore rises. Unlike most scenester histories, “We Got the Neutron Bomb” does not just end with 1981—there’s a nice epilogue, chronicling Germs guitarist Pat Smear’s moonlighting with Nirvana, Bad Religion’s popularity, and Epitaph’s success.

While its does have its share of oversights—no mention of the Descendents, no mention of the late, great cartoonist Shawn Kerri (she did the Circle Jerks flyers), no Greg Ginn interview—the book does paint a vivid picture of what life must have been like for a young punk back in the day without sounding too jaded.





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    Posted by burntorangepeel on 2004-12-02 00:55:20
    My Score:

    anonymous wrote "that is awesome that Mark Spitz, the olympic swimmer, wrote a book on punk rock"

    Funny! I noticed the name too...

    What IF they were the same person? Or are they....?

    Posted by burntorangepeel on 2004-12-01 18:30:29
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    I found this book at a library in semi-rural Tennessee a few years ago, so it can't be THAT hard to find.

    Kim Fowley, although talented and intelligent, is the biggest, most arrogant asshole. If you need some visual proof of this, just watch "The Mayor of the Sunset Strip," a documentary about KROQ's Rodney on the Roq. Great film in general, but whenever Fowley opens his mouth, its make you want to beat the shit out of him.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 at 3:46 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    it's easy to hate l.a.

    it's stupid to hate l.a.

    but it's easy

    5 great things about l.a. that aren't puenk rock

    1. the weather
    2. the ocean
    3. there are people there that aren't white/christian
    4. its in a blue state
    5. anything you want to do, you can do

    oh yeah and the music ain't too bad either (aside from alll the great l.a. bands mentioned below... the beach boys, the doors, red hot chilli peppers, guns and roses, system of a down, nwa.......

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 10:05 PM (EST)
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    Just because they played simple music doesn't mean the Ramones weren't talented. Their sets were 20-30 songs long, no breaks (as documented by 5 live albums I own by them), and all extremely tight.

    LA, on the other hand, well... Look at the Germs.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 9:41 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This score is for LA overall.

    THIS IS BOSTON NOT LA!

    sXenester

    Posted by lesstalkmorerock on 2004-11-30 18:35:36
    My Score:

    that last one was me

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 6:22 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "What LA groups besides X, the Weirdos, and the Screamers had the originality/chops of The Ramones, Television, Blondie, Heartbreakers, etc?"

    Ramones? Chops? What?

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 5:14 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "FEAR. Black Flag. Geza X/Deadbeats. Bags. Alleycats. Zolar X..............."

    Fear and Black Flag are hardcore bands.

    The Bags were cool, but couldn't really play too well. Alleycats weren't that special. Zolar X were cool, but just a trend glam band.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 2:14 PM (EST)
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    hye....im nas....i join punk's no dead plz......

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 1:54 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "What LA groups besides X, the Weirdos, and the Screamers had the originality/chops of The Ramones, Television, Blondie, Heartbreakers, etc?

    FEAR. Black Flag. Geza X/Deadbeats. Bags. Alleycats. Zolar X..............."

    .........descendents, bad religion, adolescents, social disotrion, circle jerks

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 6:04 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    I'm with bsd, la punk was way behind for an age.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 4:14 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    What LA groups besides X, the Weirdos, and the Screamers had the originality/chops of The Ramones, Television, Blondie, Heartbreakers, etc?

    FEAR. Black Flag. Geza X/Deadbeats. Bags. Alleycats. Zolar X...............

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 4:11 AM (EST)
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    I don't think the Germs were out to write great hooks.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 at 11:12 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    They actually wrote great hooks. More than you can say for the Germs.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 at 10:48 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Yeah, because the Ramones were the epitome of maturity.

    -bemused

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 at 5:23 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "just like hip hop, new york invented it, l.a. perfected it"

    How? What LA groups besides X, the Weirdos, and the Screamers had the originality/chops of The Ramones, Television, Blondie, Heartbreakers, etc?

    To me, LA punk is good, just very amateurish and sillier.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 at 5:14 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Mike Watt is interviewed a lot, but the Minutemen as a band aren't mentioned much.

    Posted by CallingLondon on 2004-11-29 16:23:25
    My Score:

    wow. it 's los angeLOS.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 at 2:25 PM (EST)
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    san pedro is for the most part of part of l.a., so yeah the minutmen would count

    germs, x, wierdos, screamers, adolescents, descendents, black flag, circle jerks, social disotrion, bad religion, nofx....................

    just like hip hop, new york invented it, l.a. perfected it

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 at 12:38 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This book is awesome, read it and then go buy a Black Randy and The Metrosquad album.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 at 7:14 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    that is awesome that Mark Spitz, the olympic swimmer, wrote a book on punk rock

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 at 4:36 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "but LA never really had a band that could write as well as the Clash or the Pistols."
    pistols..ha. minus 10 scene points for you . clash i agree with but LA had some monumental bands.
    story of the year. ha. ..funny joke . but if your serious. you have problems.
    black flag went down hill after rollins joined.
    keith morris owns. bring back SOA.

    ,
    Jet Black

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 at 10:16 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Old punk like totally sucked.

    Best bands of the last ten years: Story of the Year, River City High, Fenix TX, and Hazen St.

    Posted by TheOneTrueBill on 2004-11-28 02:22:45
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    Quite possibly my favorite book. Introduced me to The Screamers and the Weirdos. This is a great companion to the Darby Crash biography, which is much harder to find. Get both of the books.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 7:20 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Watch? I wanna participate!
    ~Petro.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 6:14 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    You'd love to see that wouldn't you?

    -Chinatown

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 5:57 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Chinatown needs to be sodomized with a sandpaper dick.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 5:12 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    It wasn't pointless at all in the context of what I was saying... Jesus christ, being cynical for the sake of it must suck.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 4:57 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Should I submit this as news? "Chinatown tries his hand at pointlessly namedropping- Followed by suicide"

    -BSD


    Hey moron,

    That was me mocking your pointless namedropping.

    -Chinatown

    Posted by Pacer on 2004-11-27 14:55:51
    My Score:

    Hey cos, i'm starting an online zine run out of cork and need a book reviewer, could you email me please.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 2:38 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Should I submit this as news? "Chinatown tries his hand at pointlessly namedropping- Followed by suicide"

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 2:34 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    And "Orange Rhyming Dictionary," "White Thrash Heros," "Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain," "Do You Know Who You Are?," "The Lonesome Crowded West," and "There's Nothing Wrong With Love" are some of the best indie rock albums of the 90s.

    -Chinatown

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 2:30 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    The LA hardcore scene started off great (Black Flag, Fear, Circle Jerks, Adolescents, Bad Religion, Middle Class, etc), but none of those bands really stuck to hardcore long enough to be a big part of the nationwide movement. You can't really blame them, but by 82, Black Flag was playing their "My War" album... Circle Jerks started just turning into a regular band... Fear basically broke up, etc.

    All said and done, "Fear- the Record", "Group Sex", and everything Black Flag put out up to and including "Damaged" is some of the best hardcore ever.

    -BSD

    Posted by inanechild on 2004-11-27 14:14:55
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    I'll second that one BSD. Black Flag and the Circle Jerks started good but lost their edge after the first couple of releases, and the Descendents (if they even count as an LA band) unfortunately went the opposite way and eventually degenerated into making more or less the same release over and over. While many of the LA bands are obscure enough to "raise your cred," I don't think they were as classic as the other scenes.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 11:27 AM (EST)
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    After reading this book, my opinion that a lot of the LA bands sucked didn't change. LA punk was based more off the "anyone can do it" UK guide... but they didn't have any classic bands, really. The Germs were great, and X were good, but LA never really had a band that could write as well as the Clash or the Pistols.

    -BSD

    Posted by inanechild on 2004-11-27 11:05:54
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    Sounds not bad, I'll have to check it out. I'll admit while I like the Germs, the Circle Jerks, Black Flag, and the Descendents, I don't really know much about the actual history behind the LA scene, since it's generally the New York and UK scene that gets focused on.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 10:41 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    ....because Green Day is old school. Scores for Green Days awwwsome career.

    -501

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 1:50 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    You could say that... Or you could say "music with substance week".

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 1:46 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    What is this, old-school week?

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 1:36 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Fucking brilliant... I love the parts about early Black Flag.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 at 1:14 AM (EST)
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    Man, I wanna read this so bad, but I never see it in any store......accept once when I was fucking BROKE in Chicago at Quimby's. My favorite music ever is the pre-hardcore LA scene......a la Dangerhouse records and Slash. I was even lucky enough to open for The Weirdos on their reunion tour and hear some darby stories first hand............but still, I NEED this book. The Germs book is pretty good, and I thought Please Kill Me was fantastic.......Damn.......

    Posted by gladimnotemo on 2004-11-27 00:45:03
    My Score:

    Please Kill Me is a good book, but Legs McNeil is such an asshole, after a while, it gets just boring to read.

    Posted by boldredletters on 2004-11-26 23:48:02
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    also, how close is LA to san pedro? shouldn't the minutemen warrant a mention?

    Posted by boldredletters on 2004-11-26 23:47:12
    My Score:

    Punxxx no read! up the dvd!