Interviews: Mark Hoppus (Plus 44, Blink 182)
Earlier this week, Plus 44 released their debut release, When Your Heart Stops Beating.
The record is the second of two post-Blink 182 projects released this year, and includes two members of the pop-punk outfit. I had a chance to talk with lead vocalist Mark Hoppus about the new band, the old band and what's in the cards for him, and his band.
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Howâs everything going with the record
release?
Everything is going great. Weâre doing press and getting
ready to hit the road. We canât wait. Everyone is excited
and weâre ready to do this damn thing.
Itâs been great to go back in and writing this record
and getting ready to tour again. Itâs been ahile since we
had an album out. A lot has happened in these last couple of
years.
Whatâs it like being on the road again?
Itâs been great to go back out. Itâs been awhile
since I toured. Being back out on stage for me feels amazing.
Going back and playing in small clubs and starting small and
humble and hitting the road and building this band from square
one. It reminds us all of where we came from and why weâre
doing it. It keeps us hungry and keeps us humble.
As you said, for the past few years youâve been
keeping busy with producing albums and doing your podcast.
What got you interested in working on a band again?
My number one priority was always writing the album and now
rehearsing and going out on tour with Plus 44. Plus-44 is our
number one priority and the other stuff has just been where I
could find the time.
Plus 44 isnât something I work around, the
other stuff works around Plus-44.
As for the Podcast, I thought it was great that you opened
with "Silly Girl."
I had to, that was the band that got me into punk rock music
in the first place. I had the change to play songs by bands that
I liked, so I absolutely had to start with the first song that
inspired me and that was "Silly Girl" by the
Descendents.
Obviously Travis and I would never have elected to have that
band break up, but given the cards that we were dealt, we had to
go on and do Plus 44.
How is Travisâs arm?
His arm is healing. Heâs learning how to play everything
with one arm. Weâve been in the rehearsal space for the
past few weeks having Travis rehearse with his left foot
replacing his right arm. Itâs really
interesting to watch. Itâs a testament to Travisâs
ability that he can switch if need be.
You started off with electronic but have gone back to a
more traditional sound - at least your traditional sound.
What are aiming for with this band? Is this a continuation of
Blink-182 in your opinion?
I think it is, in a large part a continuation of what we doing
- a step forward but also sometimes completely different
from what we were doing. Having Travis and I in Plus 44,
weâre going to bring an element of blink-182, because
obviously weâre two thirds of Blink-182. We also have two
guys who are bringing in completely different elements from what
weâve ever worked with before.
There are songs on the record that we finished that were
nothing like Blink-182 and we love that. And then there were some
songs that felt like a continuation of what we were doing with
Blink and we felt right about that too.
Is is weird not to be writing with your partner who
youâve been with for so long.
Maybe for the first week, it took some adjusting to, but
Travis and I were forced out of our routine of writing with Tom.
As far as we pushed each other with Blink-182, I think there is
still a lot of things we didnât do with Blink-182 because
we were comfortable with the positions we had.
As a vocalist I sang a certain range and Tom would sing a
certain range and Tom would write a certain type of song and so
would I. Being forced out of that was a blessing in a strange and
ugly disguise. Travis is actually writing chord structures on
keyboards. In Blink-182, we always written to a guitar part that
Tom or me had come up with. With Plus-44 everything was
different. Some songs start off on guitar, some start as a drum
pattern that Travis would program or a bass part that I would
come up with or a guitar part.
So things came from a lot of different places and forced us
out of our comfort zone.
Youâve been getting a lot of press because of the
perceived feud. As you concerned that this will overshadow the
new record and tour and everything going on?
I think they are inseparable at this point because of where
Travis and I came from. Obviously because we havenât spoken
about it until now people are going to want to know about the new
record, how it came into being, but theyâre also going to
want to know what happened at the end of Blink-182.
The thing that weâve done is we just told everyone that
was involved that when we do interviews, people can ask anything
they want. Weâre not instructing our publicists or label or
manager or anybody else to say "Donât talk about
Blink. Donât ask about this." We told everybody that
they could ask us anything they want. I think people want to know
everything.
But it must be gratifying to know that people loved the
band enough to be affected by the split. People were genuinely
upset. For a lot of people, it was a gateway band, like how
the Descendents were for you.
Definitely. Being two years after Blink-182 broke up,
itâs really humbling to know that people still want to talk
about it. That people are still, to this day, upset that that
band broke up and upset that the three of us arenât making
music together. I loved Blink-182 too.
Obviously Travis and I would never have elected to have that
band break up, but given the cards that we were dealt, we had to
go on and do Plus 44.
Not to harp on this for too long, but do you see
reconciliation in the future? Is this irreparable.
I have no idea. I wouldnât even guess. It doesnât
feel like Blink-182 is ever going to be a band again but who
knows what will happen in ten years.
Youâve produced records from MCS, Matches, etc. What
brings you into those projects?
I get turned onto new bands by people suggesting that I listen
to it. For instance, with Motion City Soundtrack, my friend
Brendan gave me their CD a long time ago - years and years
ago. He told me they were amazing and I loved the CD and so
we brought them on tour. [guitarist Joshua Cain] kept asking me
questions about the music industry and recording and labels and
all kinds of different stuff. So then they asked me to produce
their record and I was honored.
In the same way, Justin [Pierre], the singer from MCS gave me
a Matches CD and told me to check them out. I liked that the band
and so when they asked me to work with them I did.
Some punk bands who achieve success feel alienated from
punk rock and the "kids" and the kids get strict get
more demanding. How do you feel about that? Do you feel connected
still?
I definitely feel connected. I feel like back in the day,
there was a lot more punk rock police in the world. When we were
first starting off and starting to tour, I remember when Green
Day signed to a major label and you could have split the punk
rock community down the middle. It was totally divisive:"I
canât believe Green Day sold out and signed to a
major." All that nonsense. Other people said "As long
as they still make great music, it doesnât matter what
label theyuâre on"
There was a lot of that when Offspring and Green Day were
really breaking punk rock music open to the mainstream. There was
a lot more arguing about what was selling out and what
wasnât.
Now kids seem to be about the music rather than the bands or
what label theyâre on.
How has your experience been in the music industry?
Iâd say been itâs great. Every second has been
great. Itâs far beyond anything that I ever imagined. The
good is far better than anything I imagined and the bad is far
worse than anything I imagined. But I would never trade any of it
for anything.
Itâs been and is the most incredible experience I could
for.
Have you considered forming a label or anything?
Between your producing, touring and podcast, youâre
probably exposed to a lot of younger bands.
I absolutely had to start with the first song that inspired me and that was "Silly Girl" by the Descendents.
Itâs something that Iâve actually thought about
for a few years but if Iâm going to do something like that,
Iâd really feel absolutely responsible for the bands and
their careers and want to put myself 100% into it. As busy as I
am, I donât think I have the time to do that.
Until I can figure out a way to make sure bands are being
looked after in the right away, I would never be able to do
it.
Do you think itâll take another three years before we
hear new music from you?
Hopefully not, weâre going to do this tour, and then go
right back in the studio after this.
Whatâs in the works for Plus-44?
Weâve got this US tour then then weâre home for
Christma and then in new year weâre going back to Europe
and then Australia, Japan and then another US tour and then back
to Europe and thatâs all before May/June.
Lots of shows, lots of touring; lots of buses and
airplanes.