You may not know Ken Cheppaikode's name, but you're listening to all the records he's putting out. The man behind Dirtnap Records has had a hand in making bands like The Marked Men, Mean Jeans and Sonic Avenues into household names -- at least in punk rock households. Punknews editor Adam Eisenberg caught up with Cheppaikode to talk about what goes into to running a punk rock record label, learn about Dirtnap's signature sound and find out why he doesn't want your demo, but you might want to send it in anyway.
How did you come to start a record label?
Well, the label started at the end of the â90s. I finally decided I was going to do a label called Dirtnap in â99. The first record came out in 2000. It was probably just a few days after New Yearâs, so weâre probably one of the first punk labels of the 21st century. I pretty much started it because I was doing a radio show called Dirtnap Radio on an Internet Radio station called Antenna Internet Radio. The show actually developed a pretty loyal following for the couple years it was on the air. I would get people all the time writing in asking where they could find this stuff that I was playing on the radio show. I started buying stuff wholesale – the stuff I would play – and trying to sell it to listeners of the show, which was probably a huge conflict of interest. So I called that Dirtnap Mailorder, and I at the time I had absolutely no idea what I was doing. I had no idea about e-commerce, so I just had people send me checks in the mail.
Starting a label had always been a goal, always been something I wanted to expand into. There was a band from Sweden who had sent me some MP3s for me to check out and hopefully play on the show, and they were called the Donât Cares. I remember we talked on a Friday afternoon and they were like, "If you know any labels in the US who might want to put out a 7-inch by us, let us know." I thought about it over the weekend and I wrote them back on Monday and said "Iâd love to have you be the first release on Dirtnap Records," and it just kind of started from there.
Iâd always wanted to start a record label as far back as I can remember. I probably wanted to do one for 20 years before I actually did it.
How does a band end up on Dirtnap Records?
Itâs changed a lot, really, in that at this point, in 2014, Dirtnap is a relatively established label, so I have a lot of bands coming to me, more than I could ever possibly put out, and thatâs just talking about the really good ones. I put a thing on our website recently asking people not to send in submissions because we just get to many of them to go through, and we never really find bands that way anyway, yet it doesnât really seem to be stopping anybody, because we still get them. Being able to find bands isnât a problem. In fact, itâs kind of the opposite, we have too many bands to choose from. Most of the time though, when we sign up bands, itâs not from bands sending stuff in. Itâs word of mouth – bands on our label tend to recommend other bands. I still go and see bands a fair amount, more so than a lot of people my age, so I find bands that way.
Every once in a blue moon a demo will cross my desk thatâs so good that I have to say, "Oh screw it, Iâll just put that out." That was the case with this band from Michigan called Legendary Wings. But that was one of the only bands in the 130 or so releases that we have that we found that way, so itâs kind of a rarity for band submissions to wind up becoming a record, but I guess it does happen.
What have you learned in the 15 or so years youâve been running the label?
On one hand I wouldnât say running the label was easy, because I have put in a lot of work and continue to put in a lot of work. But, one thing I did realize is that itâs a lot less daunting and impossible than I thought when I first started. One thing that had kept me from doing a label for well over a decade, probably closer to two, is that it just seemed really impossible, you know? I was like, "I donât have any money, I donât have a lot of connections in the punk rock scene, Iâd love to start a label but people like me canât just start labels and have them become a thing." In my case, thatâs pretty much what happened. It really improves my outlook and my self-confidence realizing that you can just start a label. You donât have to have some secret knowledge or have to have a ton of money in the bank or know every band in the world to do it. You can just start small and build from there.
You run the label out of the Green Noise Records store in Portland. Whatâs it like running Dirtnap out of a record store?
It has its advantages and disadvantages. When thereâs nobody in the store Iâm sitting behind the counter working, which can get very distracting since I have to be able to drop what Iâm doing at any given minute and bullshit about music with people for a half an hour. So that can get a little frustrating, although I donât want to sound like Iâm complaining because I wouldnât really trade the job for anything. Itâs also a really good way to discover new music. Weâve definitely had a couple of bands wind up on Dirtnap because people wandered in asking about their 7-inch – you know, some band Iâve never heard of – and then a couple of people ask about their 7-inch and eventually I track down some of their singles and then I wound up totally falling in love with the band and end up putting out their record. Iâve been exposed to a lot more than if Dirtnap were run out of my bedroom.
A lot of the Dirtnap bands tend to share a similar sound. Is that intentional?
Itâs pretty intentional, actually. Iâve really gone out of my way to specifically give Dirtnap a certain identity. Iâm definitely going for a certain aesthetic with our releases, trying to maybe paint a bigger musical picture than any individual release. When I look at new bands for Dirtnap, I definitely take a heavy look at not just how great the record is, but also if it fits in with Dirtnap and with the other releases that weâre doing. But with that said, itâs also, at the end of the day, about how much I love the band. So occasionally there will be things that donât really fit in with the aesthetic of Dirtnap, but I decide to put it out anyway just because I like it so much.
On a day-to-day basis, how much help do you have running the label?
We have two extremely part-time employees at the shop here. We also have people that we hire out as needed. I have a publicity guy who works for us on a month-to-month retainer. Even though heâs not an employee of the company, heâs been essentially working here for years now.
What can we look forward to from Dirtnap this year?
All kinds of stuff. Iâve been here at the store packing up the orders for the new Sonic Avenues record. Iâm really, really excited about that one. I think our next release is probably going to be a new LP by the Steve Adamyk Band from Ottawa. They just got through recording in Oakland with Matt Melton, and weâre still getting that mixed and mastered. Oh, actually the next release will be the new Estranged LP. Itâll be the third record we put out by them. That one was supposed to be out a while ago but it turned out to be a real production. Also coming up we have a new Sugar Stems record. Weâre doing their third record. Theyâre in the studio recording it right now. Something Fierce is also in the studio recording a new album. Weâre going to do a split 7-inch with Low Culture and a really great band from Canada called Needles and Pins. Iâm really looking forward to that one, it turned out really good. At some point weâre going to be doing another Radioactivity record. From what I understand itâs 90 percent recorded. Thereâs a really great band from Finland called The Splits, and weâre going to release their Dirtnap debut; second album overall, first album for us. Theyâre recording that right now, so weâre probably going to try to shoot for July or August to get that out. It seems like the label is really stable and active right now, and all the bands are really proactive about wanting to pump up their releases and go on tour and not break up five minutes after their record comes out, which is kind of unusual for us.
Oh, Legendary Wings from Michigan. I knew I was forgetting one. Thatâs another band that has 10 new songs recorded toward a new LP, and thatâll be their second album for Dirtnap. Iâm really excited for that one – an underrated band on our label. Weâre also doing showcases in New York next month at the Cake Shop. Itâs going to be a pretty good bill, itâs got Steve Adamyk Band, Sonic Avenues, Legendary Wings and Something Fierce. Weâre also doing a Dirtnap showcase for Ottawa Explosion in June. It looks like thatâs going to be Marked Men, Sonic Avenues, Steve Adamyk Band, White Wires and Voicemail.